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blast off on another vip episode of hero

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paranormal podcast

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broadcasting from the base at la madre

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mountain just south of

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area 51 my name is ryan the original

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overseer of the airwaves bringing you an

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epic

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episode tonight it is with great

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anticipation that i can

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bring this podcast today the new book

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children

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of orion by ryan musgrave evans

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talk about a book that connects the dots

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of various cases and experiencers

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in a seamless format delving into

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various representative

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cases of visitors or i should more

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accurately describe

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them as those with a consistent presence

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from the multiverse

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the muddy waters of et abductions

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visitations

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and the multiplicity of theories boil

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easily understood and crystal clear

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fountain of information

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paranormal aspects of our world are not

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excluded from the mix

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blending experiences from charles hall

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dan burisch the bledsoe family

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to name a few and closing with the

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author's own personal experiences from

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those beyond the material veil

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musgrave evans leaves no stone unturned

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incorporating spiritualism abductions

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crop circles and

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other worldly entities in a theory of

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everything

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which is hard to easily dismiss

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time travelers from other dimensions

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checking in on humanity for not only our

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but their own cloaked inability to enter

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our minds using our own belief systems

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as pathways

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it's been a long time since i've been so

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enthralled in a book

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children over orion is not only a must

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read for anyone interested in aliens and

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ufos

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but it is a work of significant

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magnitude connecting humanity to its

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very roots

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and possible futures skin walkers

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shapeshifters and tricksters aren't safe

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from the immense grasp

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this literary work delves into

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prepare for the ride of a lifetime in

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this episode today

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i could not be more excited to speak

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with the author today

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so let's get to the meat of the subject

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right away ryan musgrave evans welcome

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to the hero paranormal podcast

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thank you so much for lying it's uh it's

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great to be here oh that was a hell of

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an intro you gave there i'm very happy

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about that

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um i have to live up to that intro now

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very impressive

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sounds in my book you know

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it's it's awesome it is a great book and

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let's open up pandora's box to the

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paranormal and the ufo et phenomenon

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i have so many questions and to be

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living in las vegas myself i'm going to

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go ahead and start with an area just

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and delve into the amazing case of

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charles hall at indian springs

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and the phenomena of the tall whites in

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your approximation charles hall was

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telling the truth i believe so

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as well so in a nutshell can you tell

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some of our listeners who may not be

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familiar with the tall whites and

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charles hall

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what happened out in the desert north of

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and how it fits seamlessly into your

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yeah for sure man no worries um charles

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air force base in the 60s um

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and uh he would be sent out into indian

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and uh would have a theodolite there and

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and uh record the speed that they moved

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call them back into center but um

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and release books about his experiences

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so as an older man he released um in

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2002 i believe it was simultaneously

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series millennial hospitality

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while he was there as a weather observer

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a race of well people really you could

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um originally he experienced the

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his weather shack when you go out there

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um his truck would sometimes be moved

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theodolite which was a you know

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an instrument of precision that he would

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someone else had been looking through it

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mountains and things like that

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but as time went on for him and he

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worked there for two years uh in total

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time went off for him he began to

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replacing a whole stream of

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of other servicemen before him that had

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officially that would give up

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they were suffering mentally

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be uh removed because of dereliction of

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duty because they would be pretending to

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go out to record the weather

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measurements and be making them up um

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attention after a little while he was

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done to put the pieces together

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people where they would actually

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approach him during the day and he could

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see them with his own two eyes

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individuals in particular

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of these books in the early 2000s

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things but um post charles hall's books

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tall whites are sort of caught on and

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or white blonde hair that is fine and

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um more sparse hair less less dense less

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very long hands arms longer compared to

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people um that could reach heights

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he described them as reaching heights

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eight nine he even talks about one

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that he'd heard about but not seen um

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the father of one of the individuals he

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came to know well or the grandfather

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who passed away at 700 years old at 10

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their children running around and things

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they'd chirp like birds between

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themselves and he'd often think that

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think he thought they were

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coyotes barking and growling um

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and but curious and they'd inspect these

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things and leave things out and

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main hangar or main base as being in the

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northern end of indian springs valley

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in nellis air force base which is right

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they had um but the mountains were just

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uh like honeycombed with uh

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tunnels and things um that they'd come

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that the united states air force and

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the american government had had built

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for them themselves

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description oh and also they would

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levitate

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and have luminous suits and he'd see

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as uh white

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those people in this light

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and then their suits would power down

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and they'd land on the ground and they'd

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these um canvas chalk white looking

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but um now and they'd speak directly

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his mind by using a kind of elect what

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um and without that he said they didn't

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seem to be any more or less telepathic

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they required and relied on technology

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fear into your head when they'd be if

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of those beings so if if you'll just let

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quickly uh introduce ryan the um

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the nashikhin the who islam or the the

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gentry

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the main one very important cast of

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fairies from the old gaelic fairy law of

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old

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were described by robert kirk in his in

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his book um

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faith in on a sorry um

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the robert kirkbook um the commonwealth

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secret commonwealth of

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elves thorns and fairies but was also

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talked about in evidence book

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um fairy faith in celtic countries yeah

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i give a very good

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very good descriptions of islam what

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were called the gentry by the irish and

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the scots in their fairy faith

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a kind of remnant of pre-christian

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beliefs left over

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um tall fair

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elves or fairies that would

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become luminous and move about on the

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horizon and dusk at night

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that would speak to you in your mind

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that would

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come into people's houses and move

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around their belongings and sometimes

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steal their belongings

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that would speak to each other in a

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whistling kind of sound

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um charles hall mentions that some of

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the tall whites spoke perfect english

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without trace of an accent this is also

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a trait of the fairies

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of the particular fairies called the who

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and their subterranean dwellings are

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described as being in

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in mountains in hills

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and in honeycombed cliffs and things

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like that as well

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so you've got these very very uh close

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parallels between

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in particular between in particular um

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those kinds of fairies

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and the tall whites identical really

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you'd say pretty much identical in the

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descriptions and the terms and

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characteristics

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it's true and i was i was blown away by

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i'm glad you mentioned that because i

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was blown away at how

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how similar how really similar when you

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take a few steps back and look at all

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these cases

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how very similar they are and um

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something i wanted to ask you about the

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bledsoe family's experiences

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they they made your book and for good

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reason can you explain

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how our beliefs come into play so to

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speak when interacting with crypto

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terrestrials et's aliens angels or

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whatever it is we may believe

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yeah for sure they um they rely

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heavily on what i call in my book

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telepath text so telepathic technology

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that they wear in their helmets

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now um they can use this to

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um speak a kind of linguist speak

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linguistically

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into your mind so that you're hearing

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like a language on your head spoken

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directly into

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your mind and like a silent voice excuse

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me but they also um can send in um

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abstract ideas and notions or even

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visual kinds of images

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that will pass into your across your

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mind's eye

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or convince you as well of

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taking on board beliefs perhaps that uh

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aren't reflective of reality so the

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fairies were said to

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wield a kind of sophisticated glamory or

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that could some yeah encourage people to

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view the world and to take on certain

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ideas about the nature of the world

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their own appearance or their their

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um their own um environment and things

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like that that aren't actually

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reflective of the truth so manipulation

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of the mind and things like that

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uh with the the crypto terrestrials that

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i

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they also

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find it the easiest road to take when

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they are

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approaching uh a new

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homo sapiens person that i haven't had

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anything to do with yet so

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to read their mind consider that

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person's

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that individual's own prior belief

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systems and understandings and fears and

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hopes

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dreams ambitions desires and sometimes

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um it serves their purposes to

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uh mimic or emulate or work within that

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kind of

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structural um vocabulary of ideas or

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structures of belief system that the

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person already has

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so that a they don't upset the person as

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much

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b real effective meaningful

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communication can really happen because

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they're

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the person's already pre-existing

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vocabulary in a way

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um but what this means is that

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um when and when you've got the case of

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like you're saying chris bledsoe

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christopher bledsoe

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senior of course he needs no

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introduction in the world of ufology

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he um he's very very well known

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experiencer and in 2007

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um the fayetteville incident what has

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come to be called the faithful incident

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would seem to be his first

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encounter that he can remember with

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these people i would suggest he may even

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be a lifelong experiencer

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um or at least have had prior

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experiences he doesn't remember

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for for a period before if he's not

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actually a lifelong one

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but his first conscious experience um

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when um he was fishing with his son

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chris junior

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and um three other guys the contractors

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that were working for rumors

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had a building company um they decided

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after they'd finished the project to

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celebrate and go fishing

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um and chris wandered off

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and um he was missing for a long long

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time he went he went for a walk

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and uh in the nearby woods while the

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others were fishing

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and uh they went looking for him his son

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went looking for him his son went

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missing as well

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the other guys were driving around the

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woods trying to look for them

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when bledsoe came back he had missing

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time so it wasn't until

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a while later that mufon um

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did a hypnotic regression on him that

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all this came out

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about some being taken by

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tall thin beings over seven foot tall

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that said that they were there to

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protect him and they were guardians

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and um they called themselves angels as

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well at different stages of interaction

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with him

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um and uh his son as well

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um was hiding from us

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a couple of small ones with glowing red

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eyes that were becoming invisible and

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then visible again

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and as as the three guys looking for the

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two blood zones they've both gone

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gone missing chris bledsoe going for a

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walk and disappeared

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his son chris junior venturing off to

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find his dad disappeared as well didn't

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come back

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so as the three guys are driving around

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the

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chris bledsoe jr was hiding in bushes

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away from

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two small beings that were playing

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and messing about with their things like

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going through their things

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curiously that would blink and just

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blink out and disappear when the truck

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went past and then once once the truck

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had gone again

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when the truck went past that they'd

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blink out and once it was gone they'd

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they'd appear again

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and he was in the bushes just cowering

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and afraid and he

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i think he even suggested that um that

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they were manipulating him in some way

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and they were controlling

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him so that he couldn't move out of the

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bushes

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some kind of paralysis or mental

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manipulation um

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but christopher bledsoe himself now

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christopher bledsoe

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i've had interactions with him numerous

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occasions on facebook and he's

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a wonderful guy he's one of the kindest

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people i've ever talked to

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to tell you the truth um

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humble good man and and he's a devout

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christian

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he interprets much of

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his experiences through the lens of his

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own christianity

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as people do they interpret the world

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through their own belief systems

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and etc and so on but in the case of

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christopher bledsoe

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i would suggest it even goes further

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than that where it's not just that he is

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interpreting their their actions

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and activities through the lens of his

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own belief systems

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they are actually playing up to that so

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they

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are calling themselves

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angels now it does get a little bit

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complicated here

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you could say that they're not really

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angels or you could also suggest that

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they are

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angels it depends on what you mean

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because as i talk about in my book

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they've been here interacting with us

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for so long that a lot of the

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what you could call um figures

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characters um supernatural entities from

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our old mythologies and religious

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systems

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a lot of them were given birth to in

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older times

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due to direct empirical evidence for

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the existence of these

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crypto-terrestrial beings and older

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interactions with these things

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so in a sense they are angels

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but i would say they are angels in the

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sense that

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the notion of an angel has been born

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from them in the first place but then

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you could just as these

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equally call them demons absolutely or

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fairies or elves or gin

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or gods with a lowercase g or

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a whole slew of skinwalkers slew of

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other names

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besides but with chris bledsoe um

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you know mel gibson wanted to make a

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movie about it at one stage and a lot of

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people probably have heard the story

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grant cameron stole it a few times where

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mel gibson wanted to make a movie about

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chris bledsoe's experiences

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so he and and mel gibson himself is a

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is a devout christian man a catholic um

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so he wanted to not wanting to offend

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the beings

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if it's okay to make a movie about it so

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bledsoe

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wandered out into his backyard and asked

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that and

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a tree burst into flames well they have

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the symbolism of the burning bush which

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is going to be interpreted

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so what we have happening in my opinion

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is and also there's another case called

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the avery case where the beings actually

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whether

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the crypto terrestrials actually uh

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explicitly

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say it themselves to the experiencer in

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that case

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a guy called um uh

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uh john abele i think he's nameless um

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from england um that happened in the 70s

574
00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:56,960
the beans actually said to him we take

575
00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:58,720
on i'm going to paraphrase the mail i

576
00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:59,679
haven't got the quote right in front of

577
00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:00,080
me

578
00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:03,200
we paraphrase we uh

579
00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:07,200
we um take on the appearance of

580
00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:10,320
beings from your belief systems you know

581
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:10,840
we

582
00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:18,149
scan your minds and determine what kind

583
00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:18,640
of

584
00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:21,919
emotional

585
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:25,280
they say something like that

586
00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:29,120
um we conform to that

587
00:22:33,350 --> 00:22:31,120
during our interactions with you and we

588
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:33,360
keep to that

589
00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:36,480
um so

590
00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:38,240
what this means with their capacity for

591
00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:40,640
glamoury to make them to and

592
00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:43,760
screen memories um what they have

593
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:46,960
said to me is called mesmerization

594
00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:50,640
um and uh memory alteration

595
00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:53,360
the the beings the the majin maginot

596
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:54,080
they

597
00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:56,400
told me their names are but um the

598
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:58,080
crypto terrestrials are tall whites they

599
00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:59,039
call themselves

600
00:23:02,149 --> 00:23:00,640
um the maginot but anyway that's the

601
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:02,159
word i don't use that much in this book

602
00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:02,640
but i

603
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:05,280
i have come to know that as their name

604
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:05,919
um

605
00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:07,520
they apologize to me one to one stage

606
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:09,120
about mesmerization

607
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:12,799
and mental um and uh

608
00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:14,240
memory manipulation and memory

609
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:16,240
alteration they called it

610
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:18,240
so you know screen memories i suppose in

611
00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:19,679
normal in ufology and think of it as

612
00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:20,720
being

613
00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:22,480
or the presence of doppelgangers

614
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:24,400
sometimes could be attributed to

615
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:25,919
this kind of thing where they're posing

616
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:28,240
as someone that you know to inspire

617
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:31,440
trust to to elicit

618
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:35,360
comfort and and um and um

619
00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:36,960
they will conform to their wishes and

620
00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:38,799
won't necessarily become upset by

621
00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:40,880
interactions that may need to happen etc

622
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:42,159
and so on

623
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:45,039
but uh yes i argue in the book um that

624
00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:45,760
in particular

625
00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:47,840
chris blade those cases is is a very

626
00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:49,360
very important

627
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:53,120
case in this way where they are using

628
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:56,720
um mental manipulation in some ways on

629
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:58,080
him as they do everyone but they're

630
00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:00,559
conforming to his prior belief system

631
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:03,120
and they are also using a lot these

632
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:04,720
suits

633
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:06,880
um now you're more likely to if you

634
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:08,320
interact with one of these things you'll

635
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:10,000
you'll you're less likely to see it the

636
00:24:15,909 --> 00:24:11,840
way charles hall describes them

637
00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:15,919
as the tall fair chalk white beings

638
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:17,679
you're not very likely to see them like

639
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:20,000
that necessarily or if you ever do they

640
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:22,000
won't let you remember it probably

641
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:24,880
um there are suits that are usually when

642
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:27,760
they're not cloaking dark gray or black

643
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:31,440
that's um that have like a a like a

644
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:33,840
a technology on the chest a circular

645
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:36,480
technology on the chest

646
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:39,760
claw like appendages um on

647
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:42,880
the the hands on the on the long fingers

648
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:46,960
um they wear a helmet uh goggles

649
00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:50,480
that glow red at night um

650
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,880
a breathing device with like a with a

651
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:54,559
like a proboscis like a nose like

652
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:56,000
appendage that they put on over the top

653
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:57,520
of that as well

654
00:25:01,590 --> 00:25:00,720
um and in this form this has given birth

655
00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:01,600
to

656
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:04,640
the mythos of the mothman as well

657
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:07,600
i talk about that in my book how um i

658
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:08,640
argue

659
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:10,880
strongly that the moth that the majna

660
00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:12,240
that the these crypto terrestrials are

661
00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:15,039
tall whites are behind um

662
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:16,720
lots and lots of different cases of high

663
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:18,400
strangeness that we wouldn't necessarily

664
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:21,840
associate directly with et's but um

665
00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:25,360
uh like uh point pleasant um

666
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:26,840
and skinwalker ranch and things like

667
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:28,559
that but um

668
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,960
yes in the chris the christopher bledsoe

669
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:32,320
case uh

670
00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:35,600
these suits um

671
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:38,400
they come into his house as shadow

672
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:38,960
people

673
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:43,440
guys um and poltergeists

674
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:46,799
um so he has this sort of whole gamut of

675
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:50,000
of crypto terrestrial character points

676
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:52,960
that are in my cr ct profile or crypto

677
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:54,480
terrestrial profile

678
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:56,480
that i gradually develop over the course

679
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:57,760
of the book

680
00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:00,960
using the ct profile to to find other

681
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:01,760
cases

682
00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:04,320
that that hit points on the radar for

683
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:05,200
the crypto

684
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:07,039
press repo profile and then with each

685
00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:10,320
new case i use that to further inform

686
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:13,520
and grow the list um

687
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:15,840
and so that is more complete a list of

688
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:16,960
like

689
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:23,360
um appearance um

690
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:28,880
technologies habitation culture history

691
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:31,600
games they play manipulative techniques

692
00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:33,200
and all this kind of stuff and use this

693
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:35,279
list to then search out other cases

694
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:37,760
but christopher bledsoe has lots and

695
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:39,440
lots of orbs he sees things like that

696
00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:41,279
which are quite typical as well

697
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:44,799
um and he's even had the the

698
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:48,159
the very typical um crypto terrestrial

699
00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:50,320
interaction of having one of his dog's

700
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:53,600
throats cut yeah um but then

701
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:55,600
healed quickly by them i would say no

702
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:57,679
the the crypto terrestrials these guys i

703
00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:00,000
don't like dogs in any way so

704
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:03,360
a lot of a lot of um pet dogs have

705
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:06,880
over the years been uh killed by them

706
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:12,390
because dogs have these kind of prenatal

707
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:13,840
abilities really they can perceive

708
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:16,400
things that homo sapiens

709
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:19,440
often can't this is

710
00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:21,840
um troublesome to say the least to the

711
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:23,120
crypto terrestrials when they're

712
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:24,640
attempting to move around the world in

713
00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:25,679
this kind of

714
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:29,600
um covert way um

715
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:31,919
living cheek by jau to us living under

716
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:34,080
our feet in the earth under our oceans

717
00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:37,600
um here for thousands of years um

718
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:40,720
and christopher bledsoe actually had

719
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:43,840
at one stage um uh his dog

720
00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:46,159
was hurt but repaired very quickly

721
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:47,600
because that would have been

722
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:49,360
i presume to be an accident in that case

723
00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:50,480
where one of the children may be

724
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:51,679
accidentally

725
00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:55,760
uh cut his throat but yes chris bledsoe

726
00:28:02,149 --> 00:28:00,559
is um his case is a typical um

727
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:02,159
stressful case and it's just full with

728
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:05,360
so many good profile points there

729
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:08,080
such a cool case and it is really cool

730
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:09,840
that you mentioned the cloaking the boaz

731
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:11,279
suits i hope i'm saying that right the

732
00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:13,360
visors the modes of transport and

733
00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:14,720
there's so many amazing

734
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:17,360
amazing things one of my favorite parts

735
00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:18,320
of your book

736
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:21,039
is where you fearlessly in my opinion

737
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:23,440
delve into the case of dan bierisch

738
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:26,000
and how he is truly an underestimated

739
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:28,720
informant from s4 or area 51 in my

740
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:29,520
opinion

741
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:31,120
can we get into the volumes of

742
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:32,559
information he offers and

743
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:34,880
how much of this information isn't given

744
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:36,720
credence because people prefer

745
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:38,799
simple vague answers to wrap their heads

746
00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:41,679
around and how bob lazar's experiences

747
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:43,200
are much simpler to relate to and

748
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:45,520
therefore more accepted ironically

749
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:47,600
there's arguably more evidence to place

750
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:51,360
burish at s4 than lazar isn't there

751
00:28:56,830 --> 00:28:53,200
yeah well this is that's true and this

752
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:56,840
is a this is a a tricky subject this one

753
00:29:02,070 --> 00:28:58,080
because

754
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:02,080
like you said yes um bob lazar is

755
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,120
there are plenty of people that don't

756
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:05,520
believe bob lazar but still he is a very

757
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:07,360
major figure and a prominent figure and

758
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:10,000
believed by a large proportion of people

759
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:12,640
i would say in the world of ufology and

760
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:13,679
the fringe

761
00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:17,760
but um dan burrish

762
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:19,840
people turned away from his testimony

763
00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:21,120
fairly early on so

764
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:24,480
um dan burrish he claimed to

765
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:28,399
have been uh employed uh

766
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:30,080
where bubblers are claimed to have been

767
00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:32,559
employed at s4 um

768
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:35,120
uh in the in the mountains there near

769
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:36,080
papoose lake and

770
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:39,520
he um he

771
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:41,200
he claimed though to be employed not

772
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:42,799
working on their flying sources and back

773
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:44,799
engineering like bob lazar he was

774
00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:48,480
a molecular biologist um

775
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:52,159
and got to go down into levels

776
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:55,440
uh subterranean levels below anything

777
00:30:02,389 --> 00:29:58,080
that bob lazar ever saw there

778
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:02,399
so now dan burrish's testimony is

779
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:06,640
um enormous and

780
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:09,520
i must admit taken on its own without

781
00:30:13,029 --> 00:30:10,399
context

782
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:13,039
incredibly difficult to believe it is

783
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:13,919
incredible

784
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:18,720
literally in that sense where um

785
00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:20,960
he just the enormity of the things he

786
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,399
says he talks about

787
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:24,720
the cosmology of the world that he

788
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:26,720
brings with his testimony

789
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:30,240
um he claimed to um

790
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:33,520
be running a team where there was a

791
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:34,960
clean sphere

792
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,000
a kind of um area for um

793
00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:40,320
ets to be kept and they had a particular

794
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:43,440
et whose name he said was kyla

795
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:45,840
um and he would take samples from kyla

796
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:48,559
and they were trying to

797
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:51,919
alleviate the the the crypto terrestrial

798
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:53,840
a different kind of being not not a tall

799
00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:55,840
white but a small

800
00:31:02,389 --> 00:30:59,519
uh dark brown beam with long dark claws

801
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:02,399
big dark eyes scaly oily kind of skin

802
00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:04,320
sort of like a gray but a brown color

803
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:05,519
instead

804
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:10,240
um uh what dan burrish calls a p52 j-rod

805
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:13,519
whereas um there's another word for the

806
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:14,000
actual

807
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:16,640
proper gray p-45 j rod but anyway we can

808
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:18,080
get into that in a minute

809
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,840
the um the nomenclature for the

810
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:21,519
different beings from his perspective

811
00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:22,799
and testimony

812
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:24,399
that actually exists that are out there

813
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:27,039
that are behind the ufo phenomenon

814
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:30,240
phenomenon um so he would take samples

815
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:32,480
he gets a in a kind of like a

816
00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:34,000
hazmat suit but what would you call it

817
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:35,919
like he's described as being like a

818
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:38,720
really more akin to an astronaut suit uh

819
00:31:42,789 --> 00:31:40,159
in appearance

820
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:42,799
uh massive amounts of protocol would

821
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:44,240
take huge amounts of time for him to get

822
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:46,399
into the clean sphere uh he'd take

823
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:47,919
samples from the being

824
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:51,279
kyla who would talk to him in his mind

825
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,600
um and he claimed to have learnt a lot

826
00:32:01,750 --> 00:31:57,600
of information from that being himself

827
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:01,760
at a later stage due to him having

828
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:03,440
being the only person that is four that

829
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:04,799
had ever really struck up something that

830
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:06,480
you might call like a relationship or

831
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:08,399
friendship with this thing

832
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,399
who was being kept against his will had

833
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:12,000
originally been a guest

834
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:15,679
but the situation has deteriorated so

835
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:16,320
that he was

836
00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:18,240
still there but really they weren't

837
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:19,679
letting him go

838
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:22,799
um and that's and as well as having him

839
00:32:27,269 --> 00:32:23,760
in a clean sphere

840
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:27,279
for his own protection with access to um

841
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:28,480
air that he'd be more comfortable

842
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:30,480
breathing and things like that

843
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:33,840
he um uh he was also there as a prisoner

844
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:35,360
really it was actually restricting him

845
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:36,080
too

846
00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:38,080
but um so dan burrish's job of leading

847
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:39,279
this

848
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:43,039
task force was to study the bank's dna

849
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:43,760
and try to

850
00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:45,360
alleviate some of these kinds of

851
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:46,960
pathologies where its

852
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:49,760
genome was unraveling and causing all of

853
00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:50,640
these

854
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:53,360
systemic issues throughout his body um

855
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:53,679
and

856
00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:00,960
affecting their

857
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:04,080
species at large um

858
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:07,279
uh which is now dan this is a key part

859
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:07,919
of danbury's

860
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:09,760
testimony as well so that these beings

861
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:12,080
are not true aliens

862
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:14,960
not beings that have evolved somewhere

863
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:16,159
else

864
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:19,440
on you know extraterrestrial or extra

865
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:21,360
soul or even which is a

866
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:22,960
usually what people in ufology are

867
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:24,559
talking about even as beings that are

868
00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:26,080
from beyond our solar system and things

869
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:27,200
like that

870
00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:28,640
although he doesn't deny those beings

871
00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:30,559
exist he took he says that the main

872
00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:34,399
beings that have been visiting us are

873
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:38,240
um four four kinds of future lineage

874
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:39,360
humans

875
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:41,360
um and then that can get quite

876
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:43,200
complicated where he talks about how

877
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:45,200
travel works and things like that but um

878
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:46,240
basically then

879
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:47,760
their main reason for coming back here

880
00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:50,399
is to alleviate um

881
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:53,840
uh their genomic problems um

882
00:33:57,029 --> 00:33:55,679
and by coming back to the source by

883
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:57,039
coming back to what to them

884
00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:00,320
their ancient ancestors us and

885
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:02,720
ameliorating their problems in that way

886
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:03,679
by

887
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:05,440
uh interbreeding with us in the case of

888
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:07,679
the the tall whites

889
00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:10,879
um or sometimes and and the other guys

890
00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:12,720
like the little brown ones

891
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:16,480
uh more in in the way of trying to

892
00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:18,079
take samples from us and work out how to

893
00:34:20,470 --> 00:34:19,359
fix their genome that way and things

894
00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:20,480
like this

895
00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:23,919
but um and then dan burris as well

896
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:26,000
later says that he ended up being on the

897
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:28,079
board of mj 12

898
00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:31,119
the majestic so his

899
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,240
his testimony encompasses he also

900
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:36,240
described the the upper level where

901
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:37,760
bubblers are sore more or less in

902
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:38,960
identical ways to

903
00:34:43,109 --> 00:34:41,839
the way bubbles are saw it and um was

904
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:43,119
interviewed

905
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:44,879
by people i think michael schroeder one

906
00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:47,520
stage it had had done like cad design 3d

907
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:48,320
renderings of

908
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:52,240
under like from um uh boris's testimony

909
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,800
what ps4 looks like etc and so on but

910
00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:56,879
it encompasses the the testimony of bob

911
00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:57,839
lazar

912
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:01,280
and is compatible with that but then

913
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:04,400
offers huge amounts of extra information

914
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:06,400
that most people just find completely

915
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:07,760
well they're just completely incredulous

916
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:09,760
when they hear it and so his testimony

917
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:11,520
fairly early on when he was talking

918
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:13,200
about it in the early 2000s and things

919
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:14,480
and then i think although after

920
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:16,800
2010 2011 dan burrish was still

921
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:17,599
sometimes

922
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:20,160
publicly talking but those people who

923
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:21,040
had offered him

924
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,440
some support and an ear early on

925
00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:27,520
those investigative journalists

926
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:28,960
ufologists

927
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:31,520
enthusiasts really started to fall away

928
00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:32,960
and decided because he couldn't offer a

929
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:34,560
lot of his credentials and things like

930
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:35,440
that um

931
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:39,280
uh he wasn't he wasn't the real deal

932
00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:41,920
and he left disappeared into obscurity

933
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:43,440
and then the word was that he wasn't

934
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:44,000
meant to talk

935
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:45,359
about things anymore anyway that he'd

936
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:48,640
been allowed a window to talk about it

937
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:53,040
um now he gained credence

938
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:56,000
in my book well there's a couple of

939
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:57,040
reasons why he gains

940
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:00,320
credence actually but but my book

941
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:03,119
primarily is an investigative

942
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:06,320
um journey into finding the crypto

943
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:08,160
terrestrials through different cases and

944
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:09,440
building this profile that i mentioned

945
00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:12,160
earlier and describing them

946
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:15,359
but as an experiencer as well um in my

947
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:16,560
own experiences with

948
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:18,400
these beings i've asked them about dan

949
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:19,680
burris and they've confirmed that he was

950
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:20,800
telling the truth now i know that

951
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,680
doesn't mean

952
00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:23,359
much if anything to people that are that

953
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:25,280
are of a more rational

954
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:28,960
reasonable bent that just want proof um

955
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:30,960
more evidence than than just my

956
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:32,720
anecdotes um

957
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:36,079
so my book shows that

958
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:40,000
leads you up to the point of

959
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:42,000
i would hope reading the chapters prior

960
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:44,240
to me considering dan barish's

961
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:46,640
case which i do sort of more a third of

962
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:48,560
the way halfway through the book

963
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:52,240
through the prior chapters um

964
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:54,960
slowly building and taking the reader by

965
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:56,960
the hand and

966
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:01,040
showing them through other cases um

967
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:03,359
characteristics and ideas and and

968
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:05,200
information about these beings

969
00:37:10,710 --> 00:37:09,359
that dan burrish's testimony conforms

970
00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:10,720
with

971
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:13,920
so um for instance uh

972
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:15,680
there's evidence through the cases

973
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:16,960
earlier prior

974
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:18,560
to the one to the dan buresh one that i

975
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:20,720
consider that the beings probably have

976
00:37:24,069 --> 00:37:22,000
some kind of involvement

977
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:24,079
with orion's belt the tall whites

978
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:25,359
probably have some kind of involvement

979
00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:26,800
with the ryan's belt and there's

980
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:29,520
a couple of different reasons for

981
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:31,280
suggesting that

982
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:34,000
um one being the the chris bledsoe

983
00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:35,119
sketch that he had a

984
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:37,119
sketch artist do of a seven foot tall

985
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:38,800
being that he recalled seeing a hypnotic

986
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:39,520
progression

987
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:41,520
is more or less identical very very

988
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:42,720
similar anyway

989
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:46,079
to um the so-called crabwood crop circle

990
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:48,160
of 2002 from england that

991
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:51,359
that famous image of uh of what people

992
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:51,920
normally

993
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:54,640
say is a gray yeah um and i suppose you

994
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:56,000
could call it sometimes tall whites are

995
00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:57,280
called tall grays you could call it a

996
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:58,800
tall grey maybe if you wanted to

997
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:01,760
but a being in the crop circle holding

998
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:02,800
um

999
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:06,240
a disc presenting it with a binary

1000
00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:07,760
code that's in english that has a

1001
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:10,079
message and just behind

1002
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:11,599
in the image of the cross circle just

1003
00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:13,280
behind the image is

1004
00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:16,000
a representation of orion's belt the

1005
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:17,920
stars conforming to the configuration of

1006
00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:18,960
orion's belt

1007
00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:22,160
so you've got that little um

1008
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:25,599
teaser of some kind of relationship

1009
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:28,000
with orion's belt but then also in the

1010
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:31,119
case of antonio villas boas

1011
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:34,560
um from brazil um he uh when he was

1012
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:36,960
abducted in brazil in 1957

1013
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:39,200
um when he was working on a tractor out

1014
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:41,040
at night to escape the heat of the day

1015
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:43,520
and he had he was taken on board a craft

1016
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:45,520
always wrestled on boarder craft

1017
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:49,200
um and had a sexual interaction with a

1018
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,880
being on there it's a famous very famous

1019
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:52,320
case but he also saw

1020
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:54,320
what he described as hieroglyphs and he

1021
00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:55,680
reproduced them to the best of his

1022
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:56,720
ability

1023
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:01,280
and in these hieroglyphs or glyphs

1024
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:04,640
squiggles and lines are three dots

1025
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:06,640
along the bottom that conform as well to

1026
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:14,950
now the beings

1027
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:17,520
from uh villas boasters case weren't

1028
00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:20,160
very tall not very tall tall whites but

1029
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:21,680
as we find out from a case from a

1030
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:23,040
testament of childhood they take a very

1031
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:24,720
long time to grow

1032
00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:27,760
um a 50 year old tall white's probably

1033
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:28,880
only going to be about

1034
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:30,800
four and a half to five foot tall or

1035
00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:32,079
something like that

1036
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:34,880
um they take a very long time to grow to

1037
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:36,800
100 years old 150 years old they'll be

1038
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:38,640
around six foot tall they keep going up

1039
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:40,000
up up until they

1040
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:41,359
they end up getting as high as 10 foot

1041
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:43,280
as i said earlier but

1042
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:46,320
the villa thor's case barking growling

1043
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:48,079
yelping speech

1044
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:51,119
fair skin huge blue eyes uh

1045
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:54,160
pointed chin um

1046
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:56,800
dark suits like these suits that i've

1047
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:57,359
these

1048
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:59,040
lead suits that i talk about it from

1049
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:00,480
later cases

1050
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:04,079
um and orion's belt and then later on

1051
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:05,520
the crisp leds are the suggestion of a

1052
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:06,640
ryan's belt again so

1053
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:10,480
i then when we get to tall whites

1054
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:13,839
two um leads towards some kind of

1055
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:15,520
association with orion's belt so then

1056
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:16,079
you get to

1057
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:18,319
dan burrish's testimony where he doesn't

1058
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:19,520
talk about

1059
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:21,760
the tall whites very much at all and he

1060
00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:22,800
sometimes calls them

1061
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:24,800
nordics or talls or tall whites and he

1062
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:26,240
doesn't really use that term and he

1063
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:27,680
admits that he

1064
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:29,520
doesn't really know that much

1065
00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:30,720
necessarily about the

1066
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:33,680
terminology and mainstream ufology but

1067
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:35,200
what he says

1068
00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:38,720
is known to majestic as

1069
00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:42,079
p52 orions from the middle star of

1070
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,000
orion's belt

1071
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:46,560
are the tall whites he's called he says

1072
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:47,200
they're tall

1073
00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:50,240
fair bangs of huge blue eyes um that

1074
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:50,880
have

1075
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:52,480
an incredible emotional range and

1076
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:54,000
emotional complexity which is the same

1077
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:56,480
way charles hall described them

1078
00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:03,910
uh you you suggested that i'm i'm brave

1079
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:04,400
or

1080
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:11,040
uh ryan to to tackle the issue of dan

1081
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:17,750
he's telling the truth so as a

1082
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:21,760
see from my position is um

1083
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:23,839
with this book and with what i'm doing

1084
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:25,359
i'm more of

1085
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:27,599
telling people what they need to hear

1086
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:30,000
not what they want to hear basically

1087
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:33,680
um i don't you know

1088
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:35,680
the beings that dan burrish talks about

1089
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:37,119
in his books are represented in

1090
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:38,800
different cases as well so for instance

1091
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:40,560
the being that he worked on kayala that

1092
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:41,839
i described earlier

1093
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:45,359
brown being with claws oily skin

1094
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:47,599
had like ridges pronounced ridges on its

1095
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:49,119
skull and that

1096
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:52,160
that thing can be found in the the

1097
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:54,880
virginia incident from brazil that was

1098
00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:56,640
in the 90s

1099
00:42:02,069 --> 00:42:00,400
where small dark round beings described

1100
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:02,079
as looking kind of like monkeys which is

1101
00:42:07,589 --> 00:42:05,119
the word that dan burris used himself

1102
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:07,599
were found wandering around a town in

1103
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:09,200
country brazil

1104
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:12,640
after there had been a crash oily skin

1105
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:13,440
scaly skin

1106
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:16,480
dark claws sort of ridges on their skull

1107
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:17,839
like dan burris describes

1108
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:18,960
them as having but these were

1109
00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:21,920
interpreted by um

1110
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:24,079
the the the catholic people there of the

1111
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,280
town as being

1112
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:27,520
reminiscent of horns so they thought of

1113
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:28,560
them as being demons

1114
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:30,000
the great bridges kind of look like

1115
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:32,079
three horns across the top of their head

1116
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,280
um i'm not quite sure i don't think

1117
00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:37,680
anyone ever really considers the

1118
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:39,520
testimony of dan burrish

1119
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:43,119
outside of his own outside of the

1120
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:45,200
consideration of just the man himself so

1121
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:46,000
it's really sort of

1122
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:48,079
an ad hominem kind of thing people look

1123
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:49,359
at dan burrish

1124
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:51,760
they listen to his testimony it sounds

1125
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:52,640
just so

1126
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:56,560
so fantastical so unbelievable

1127
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,040
um he can come across in my opinion as

1128
00:43:05,290 --> 00:43:01,440
being kind of

1129
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:05,300
arrogant in some ways

1130
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:08,160
[Music]

1131
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:11,520
some people might find him unlikable i

1132
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:12,079
personally

1133
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:15,119
when i watch his videos and things like

1134
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:16,960
that i personally find him likable

1135
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:18,640
and believable and genuine other people

1136
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:20,640
say oh no this guy's definitely a liar

1137
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:22,720
he's arrogant he's and all this kind of

1138
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:24,839
stuff

1139
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:28,160
um but when you

1140
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:30,079
look at what he's saying and then look

1141
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:31,280
to other cases

1142
00:43:38,829 --> 00:43:35,200
from ancient times up until modern

1143
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:38,839
what he's saying is actually represented

1144
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:40,400
in

1145
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:45,200
testimonies

1146
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:47,680
um now there is a possibility you could

1147
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:48,640
suggest that he

1148
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,880
has done this himself he has

1149
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:54,560
entered into some kind of um

1150
00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:56,800
investigation where he's decided

1151
00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:58,240
evidence would suggest that the tall

1152
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,160
whites are most likely from orion

1153
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:02,720
so he's or he's collected evidence about

1154
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:04,000
different kinds of beings and he's

1155
00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:09,280
decided to add them into his story now

1156
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:11,839
anyone who thinks that i'd suggest have

1157
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:13,280
a bit of a read in my book and think

1158
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:14,000
again

1159
00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:17,440
yeah i i would like to think that you

1160
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:19,760
would be well on the way to considering

1161
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,510
that um

1162
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:29,109
happy enough the people if they're

1163
00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:30,960
anti-danburush and they consider my book

1164
00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:32,079
that they might

1165
00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:35,599
at least be reasonable enough then to

1166
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:37,760
to reconsider their position and stand

1167
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:40,160
on dan burrish because um

1168
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:43,920
yeah he's uh he offers a basically he is

1169
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:45,839
disclosure that happened earlier and

1170
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:47,119
that people just

1171
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:48,880
turn their back on and are still asking

1172
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:50,480
for disclosure now and now we're getting

1173
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:52,880
a kind of drip fed disclosure

1174
00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:54,960
um but for those people who are really

1175
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:56,319
interested that already

1176
00:45:01,910 --> 00:44:58,800
know and believe this is happening i

1177
00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:05,069
look into the testimony again of burrish

1178
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:07,760
b-u-r-i-s-c-h his surname is

1179
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:11,520
um and in that you'll find

1180
00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:14,640
the answers to most things most things

1181
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:16,480
some things he said i think he was

1182
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:18,960
not quite right about that i've come to

1183
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:20,640
organically sort of understand myself

1184
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:22,240
from my interaction with the beings

1185
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:24,720
and also my own investigations certain

1186
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:25,680
things like he

1187
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:27,119
banned dan burris didn't seem quite

1188
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:29,280
aware of the permanent entrenched

1189
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:32,000
presence of the tall wife even though he

1190
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:33,599
knew that they'd been here for centuries

1191
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:35,760
influencing our belief systems

1192
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:39,119
um for thousands of years he

1193
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:42,800
seemed to be naive and a bit ignorant in

1194
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:44,400
his interviews as to the extent to which

1195
00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:45,200
they're

1196
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:48,079
here right now in relatively large

1197
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:50,000
numbers permanently

1198
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:53,520
um but yeah dan burris key to to to

1199
00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:55,440
understanding what's actually going on

1200
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:57,520
in ufology and paranormal research in

1201
00:46:02,550 --> 00:45:59,280
general

1202
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,560
i agree and he has a very

1203
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:04,400
different demeanor and presence if

1204
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,560
anybody's ever seen him at a uh

1205
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:09,040
conference or there's something there i

1206
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:10,480
don't know what it is but there is

1207
00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:12,480
definitely something there

1208
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:14,800
one uh what i like is i believe that

1209
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:15,760
people want

1210
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:18,000
like you said spoon fed information and

1211
00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:20,000
his volumes or information are really

1212
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:21,760
hard to wrap your head around so

1213
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:23,920
i was really impressed in my opinion how

1214
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:25,520
you how you tackled that

1215
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:28,880
very very cool uh

1216
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:30,880
let's you you sort of touched on it a

1217
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:32,480
little bit ryan let's touch on the

1218
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:34,880
conspiracy of the extraterrestrial

1219
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:37,520
ie crypto terrestrial cover-up and the

1220
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:39,680
multitude of reasons why this might be

1221
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:43,359
the case or taking taking place

1222
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:46,640
right okay yeah well

1223
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:50,160
um well they have

1224
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:53,359
in the in well they of course have uh

1225
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:55,280
clean technologies sophisticated

1226
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,520
advanced technologies that are

1227
00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:59,520
literally tens of thousands of years

1228
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:00,800
beyond anything that we have

1229
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:04,560
currently um and

1230
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:08,319
that that kind of normal um

1231
00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:11,839
reasoning in ufology that that's quite

1232
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:13,920
uh commonplace in ufology i think is

1233
00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:15,200
probably

1234
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:17,119
spot on where people were one of the

1235
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,000
main reasons why

1236
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:22,400
the powers that be whoever they may be

1237
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:23,680
the the different

1238
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:30,870
um fighting over the bone or whatever i

1239
00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:33,040
i'd be surprised if there's any one real

1240
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:34,160
group in

1241
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:35,680
of shadow government in power in my

1242
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:37,839
opinion there's there's a sort of tribal

1243
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:38,640
and there are different

1244
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:41,200
competing entities but it seems for the

1245
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:41,920
most part

1246
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:43,920
all of these entities are in when i say

1247
00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:45,520
entities i mean like bodies of people

1248
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:45,920
like

1249
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:49,200
groups you know um not not pt's

1250
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:50,000
themselves

1251
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:52,960
um but different different entities and

1252
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:54,240
groups that are

1253
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:56,720
in agreement when it comes to not

1254
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:57,760
revealing this

1255
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:01,440
because it'll upset the status quo

1256
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:03,920
and and that is the common thread and

1257
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:06,000
narrative and explanation for

1258
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:08,800
the cover-up in in in mainstream ufology

1259
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:09,280
and

1260
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:11,359
that that is a big in my opinion a big

1261
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:13,359
part of of why things are kept under

1262
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:14,720
wraps in that way

1263
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:16,720
uh and trent danburish talks a lot about

1264
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:18,160
treaty systems that

1265
00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:20,240
we have had with these future lineage

1266
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:21,359
people

1267
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:24,559
um four different races of them um

1268
00:48:30,309 --> 00:48:28,559
and how the the beings themselves

1269
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:30,319
especially the tall whites their hands

1270
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:32,000
have been tied

1271
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:35,760
um in respect to revealing themselves to

1272
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:36,240
us

1273
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:39,920
in a large way at least um

1274
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,079
that this is put off and put off and

1275
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:44,160
that meetings occur

1276
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:46,880
by people let's say in shadow government

1277
00:48:49,829 --> 00:48:48,000
groups and people like

1278
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:49,839
majestic or or whatever they'd call

1279
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:51,680
themselves now nowadays those kinds of

1280
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,720
entities

1281
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:54,079
people that are making decisions and

1282
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:56,640
voting on

1283
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:58,800
every so often every few years whether

1284
00:49:02,950 --> 00:48:59,680
or not now

1285
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:02,960
it's okay to start releasing information

1286
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:06,079
and they they vote no or yay and and

1287
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:09,680
it goes on but um so there yeah we have

1288
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:10,720
we definitely have that

1289
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:13,280
that common thread that everyone

1290
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:14,559
listening to this will be familiar with

1291
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:16,319
and i do agree with that advanced

1292
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:17,839
technologies

1293
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:19,599
being thrown into the mix is going to do

1294
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:21,839
wreak havoc to the world economy as it

1295
00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:23,200
stands today

1296
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:25,040
there are a lot of people that will

1297
00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:26,960
benefit from that

1298
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:30,319
havoc but there's a particular powerful

1299
00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:31,920
group of individuals the most powerful

1300
00:49:36,549 --> 00:49:34,000
people in the world

1301
00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:36,559
to whom that will not be a pleasant

1302
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:38,240
prospect

1303
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:41,520
that will pull them down to being

1304
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:43,920
much more like the rest of us correct um

1305
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:44,559
they won't

1306
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:47,280
have well basically our currencies and

1307
00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:47,920
our whole

1308
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:49,839
economic world will be turned upside

1309
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:50,960
down um

1310
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:53,440
and and everyone who's got all the

1311
00:49:56,829 --> 00:49:54,880
chairs and all the toys and all the

1312
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:56,839
goodies at the moment are gonna be would

1313
00:50:02,069 --> 00:50:00,240
just immediately automatically naturally

1314
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:02,079
organically be forced

1315
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:06,400
to lose it um

1316
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,920
money would probably become a thing of a

1317
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:09,280
past i mean i'm getting off track here

1318
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:10,720
and all that kind of stuff

1319
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:12,640
i don't i don't want to really go down

1320
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:14,160
those pathways and i'm

1321
00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:16,160
not that knowledgeable about you know

1322
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:17,839
speculating as to what could possibly

1323
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:18,559
happen

1324
00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:20,000
after disclosure and things like that

1325
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:21,680
anyway really but

1326
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:25,440
um except except when it comes to the

1327
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:27,200
notions that the beings have themselves

1328
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:28,480
the plan they would have

1329
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:33,430
cognizant of those kinds of things i'm

1330
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:34,800
not quite sure if i've mentioned that in

1331
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:36,000
this book though

1332
00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:39,280
um but i will in later books um

1333
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:40,559
and i've sort of talked about that a

1334
00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:42,880
little bit on my youtube channel but um

1335
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:47,040
but um yeah and now another major factor

1336
00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:49,920
another major factor as well is um

1337
00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:51,520
embarrassment

1338
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:55,520
um that this has been happening all of

1339
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:56,240
this time

1340
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:57,839
and that this has been known about by

1341
00:51:02,630 --> 00:50:59,760
the powers of the

1342
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:02,640
many different areas in the military and

1343
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:02,960
in

1344
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:11,839
and

1345
00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:15,359
things like that that some of this

1346
00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:16,559
information has sort of

1347
00:51:20,829 --> 00:51:18,800
been there and held secret and kept away

1348
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:20,839
from the rest of us

1349
00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:24,319
and it's a little bit painful to have to

1350
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:25,920
admit to everyone that you've been

1351
00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:28,640
keeping a secret and that you're liars

1352
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:29,119
and that

1353
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:32,880
um um this whole time

1354
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:36,240
you have been keeping all of the

1355
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:39,359
pot of gold for yourself basically um

1356
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:43,119
now that is an aspect to it as well just

1357
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:44,400
now what can happen with this sort of

1358
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:46,160
drip fed exposure is

1359
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:49,440
the pretense that the powers that be

1360
00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:50,079
themselves

1361
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:51,920
are only just starting to find out about

1362
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:54,000
this now now that is a much

1363
00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:57,119
i'd imagine a much preferable narrative

1364
00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:01,359
to groups like the cia the nsa

1365
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:05,119
other alphabet groups majestic 12

1366
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,720
power structures you know behind s4 and

1367
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:08,400
things like that which is nsa based for

1368
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:09,839
the most part

1369
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:11,440
some governmental branches and things

1370
00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:13,920
like this um

1371
00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:16,160
it sounds like a much preferable story

1372
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:18,000
in their minds i'm sure to

1373
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:20,160
now go okay we're going to start some

1374
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:21,680
disclosure it's going to be drip fed

1375
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:23,119
it's going to be slow going to ease

1376
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:25,440
people into it

1377
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:28,240
so it doesn't have the major effect on

1378
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:30,079
the economy it might have otherwise or

1379
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:30,559
on

1380
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:34,720
they can then

1381
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:36,800
happily pretend that they're finding out

1382
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:38,160
about all this at the same time as the

1383
00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:38,960
rest of us

1384
00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:41,440
right um and not have fingers pointed

1385
00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:42,720
out at them and um

1386
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:46,000
and not be answerable in any way um

1387
00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:48,400
now that that's another element but i

1388
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,640
think also

1389
00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:52,559
a very very big element to this which is

1390
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:54,720
something that i personally

1391
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,880
um don't feel myself but i'm starting to

1392
00:53:02,309 --> 00:52:58,800
understand more and more and more that

1393
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:02,319
i am the outlier when it comes to this

1394
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:04,559
that when people start to find out about

1395
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:06,640
these crypto terrestrials

1396
00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:09,119
consider the evidence for their

1397
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:11,520
existence

1398
00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:15,599
they become most people i've talked to

1399
00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:17,119
about it and people that have read my

1400
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:19,599
book so far

1401
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:22,960
um as well as being excited

1402
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:25,520
and and and interested they can't help

1403
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:26,160
but feel

1404
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,960
frightened um and one guy who

1405
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:30,480
interviewed me the other day said

1406
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:32,400
when he was asked interviewing me and

1407
00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:33,599
focusing basically

1408
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:35,119
an interview focusing more on my own

1409
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:37,040
experiences than focusing on the book

1410
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:38,079
itself

1411
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:40,240
he said he's um he's never done an

1412
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:42,480
interview where he was so frightened

1413
00:53:45,589 --> 00:53:43,920
in the sense that when i was telling him

1414
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:45,599
about my interactions he said he had

1415
00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:46,559
goosebumps seven

1416
00:53:52,390 --> 00:53:50,640
times and he said that this is

1417
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:52,400
the way that the crypto terrestrials

1418
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:53,599
interact with us and have been

1419
00:53:57,670 --> 00:53:54,640
interacting with us and

1420
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:57,680
and manipulating our minds um just

1421
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:59,440
creeps him out and people that i've

1422
00:54:01,990 --> 00:54:01,040
talked other people i've talked to react

1423
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:02,000
in the same way

1424
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:04,240
they react even though he was excited

1425
00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:05,520
this guy that was interviewing me he was

1426
00:54:08,710 --> 00:54:06,960
very excited as well and he's happy

1427
00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:08,720
about it in one way he was also

1428
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:10,160
um there's that element where they're

1429
00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:12,640
like hold on a second

1430
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:16,160
this is an intrusion they are intruding

1431
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:17,839
into our world they're manipulating our

1432
00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:19,680
minds without consent

1433
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:22,720
they are taking

1434
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:25,200
dna from our bodies this is this is this

1435
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:27,520
is um

1436
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:29,359
you know this this is a violation

1437
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:31,040
basically there's a response from a lot

1438
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:32,240
of people

1439
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:35,119
now you can imagine the power of the be

1440
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:35,760
knowing

1441
00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:37,119
that these beings have been here for

1442
00:54:42,549 --> 00:54:39,520
thousands of years knowing that

1443
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:42,559
not even are they from elsewhere even

1444
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:43,599
though they may have spent

1445
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:45,920
time elsewhere in in future times or

1446
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:46,720
whatever

1447
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:48,799
uh like in their own timeline and things

1448
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:50,079
like that but they have been here in

1449
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:51,359
this timeline interacting with us for

1450
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:52,720
thousands of years

1451
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:55,839
um basically living under our noses and

1452
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,670
um in a sense like free range

1453
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:05,520
ancient humans that they can use to

1454
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:06,880
augment their own dna

1455
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:08,640
exactly which is the role that we play

1456
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:11,680
for them when a lot of people hear that

1457
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:15,040
they they say to me oh

1458
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:18,079
now i understand why there is a cover-up

1459
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:20,880
okay and i think about it and go well to

1460
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:21,280
me

1461
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:27,760
reaction to that concept in fact i'm

1462
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:29,040
just

1463
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:33,200
um uh so intrigued and fascinated by the

1464
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:34,240
existence of these

1465
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:36,079
these people that um to me i'm just

1466
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:37,520
overwhelmed with curiosity

1467
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:39,119
and excitement and things like that and

1468
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:40,799
i don't actually feel violated and

1469
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:41,680
whatnot

1470
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:43,440
now when i've said that to other people

1471
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:45,359
they say to me yes but you wouldn't

1472
00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:47,760
because if the beings are manipulating

1473
00:55:50,710 --> 00:55:49,119
your mind they're telling you to be

1474
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:50,720
serene and calm about it

1475
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:52,079
so how would you know whether or not

1476
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:53,440
it's a violation because you're

1477
00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:54,240
corrupted

1478
00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:56,559
in some way and my response to that is

1479
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,960
well that may be the case but

1480
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,480
and i'm not afraid and i don't know why

1481
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:02,640
i'm not afraid and i don't really care

1482
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:03,920
at the end of all amounts of the same

1483
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:06,160
thing whether it's them manipulating my

1484
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:07,599
mind all the time and making me not

1485
00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:08,640
afraid

1486
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:11,119
or whether it's just that i'm the kind

1487
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:12,480
of person that

1488
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:15,200
um is okay with this kind of thing

1489
00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:16,960
anyway just because i'm so curious

1490
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,640
speculative naturally anyway um but yeah

1491
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:22,160
i think that third thing that

1492
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:24,799
that i just mentioned then if you

1493
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:25,760
imagine a group of

1494
00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:28,079
people running the show or several

1495
00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:29,599
groups or trying to work in

1496
00:56:33,829 --> 00:56:32,400
in unison with each other to know about

1497
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:33,839
all of this know about the existence of

1498
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:34,799
these beings

1499
00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:38,799
know how freaking scary the

1500
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:41,359
ev the notion or picture that is built

1501
00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:42,960
in people's minds when they once they

1502
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:44,799
start to know about it

1503
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:48,000
um they're reluctant

1504
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:51,599
to tell it all um the idea that there

1505
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:52,400
may be

1506
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:54,799
ufos or ats visiting us and they're from

1507
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:56,880
elsewhere and they say hello sometimes

1508
00:57:00,549 --> 00:56:57,520
and

1509
00:57:01,910 --> 00:57:00,559
you know maybe they swap chocolates with

1510
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:01,920
us on the white house lawn

1511
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:04,000
from time to time or something like that

1512
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:05,680
um there's something

1513
00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:07,920
kind of nice about that a neighborly

1514
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:09,200
thing oh yeah they're from over there

1515
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:10,559
we're from over here we help each

1516
00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:12,319
other out sometimes it's like no but

1517
00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:14,799
this is a very different

1518
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:17,839
narrative and this narrative is

1519
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:20,319
here under our feet and it is sometimes

1520
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:20,960
dark

1521
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,430
have run the whole spectrum or gamut of

1522
00:57:31,430 --> 00:57:29,040
different kinds of personalities that we

1523
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:31,440
do i mean homo sapiens some of us are in

1524
00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:34,799
intensely cruel manipulative aggressive

1525
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:36,160
people

1526
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:40,960
that exist in our militaries

1527
00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:43,680
then you have a lot of compassionate

1528
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:50,470
benevolent people amongst our ranks as

1529
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:51,920
well

1530
00:57:56,789 --> 00:57:54,240
and everything in between and when you

1531
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:56,799
have the tall whites you have

1532
00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:58,400
that you have the same amount of

1533
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:01,119
variability now i would suggest that

1534
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:03,520
all in all the tall whites or the the

1535
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:05,359
majina the crypto tall white crypto

1536
00:58:07,829 --> 00:58:06,640
terrestrials are

1537
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:07,839
if you were to take them being

1538
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:09,680
essentialist about it and just consider

1539
00:58:13,270 --> 00:58:11,200
them as a whole body of a whole group a

1540
00:58:14,710 --> 00:58:13,280
whole race in themselves

1541
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:14,720
they're more inclined to be more

1542
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:16,640
agreeable compassionate

1543
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:20,400
enlightened forgiving

1544
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:23,440
nurturing people than we are as a whole

1545
00:58:26,549 --> 00:58:25,280
if we were to be essentialist about us

1546
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:26,559
and consider us as a whole

1547
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:30,160
but not much you know they're not like

1548
00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:32,160
they're not like these intensely

1549
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:33,920
spiritual beings that some people

1550
00:58:37,589 --> 00:58:34,400
someone

1551
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:37,599
like stephen greer would say

1552
00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:39,359
visit him when he's doing his c5s and

1553
00:58:41,589 --> 00:58:41,040
things like that from other galaxies and

1554
00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:41,599
whatnot

1555
00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:43,359
i don't know anything about that but

1556
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:44,799
these things even if those kinds of

1557
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:46,240
beings exist and are visiting us

1558
00:58:49,510 --> 00:58:47,839
and visiting people doing ce5 out in the

1559
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:49,520
desert sometimes or whatever that are

1560
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:51,520
enlightened beings that you know are

1561
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:53,040
like buddha or jesus christ on a

1562
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:54,400
spacecraft or something like that even

1563
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,839
if those kinds of guys exist

1564
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:57,200
they're not the ones that have been

1565
00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:59,359
influencing our world that are related

1566
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:01,280
to us

1567
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:04,319
that it's like a family thing say with

1568
00:59:06,789 --> 00:59:04,880
us

1569
00:59:09,109 --> 00:59:06,799
yeah where we're we're basically the

1570
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:09,119
same people and they need us

1571
00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:11,280
um it's not i stress in my book to say

1572
00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:13,040
that it's not parasitic

1573
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:16,000
it's symbiotic the relationship because

1574
00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:18,400
although they're using us because they

1575
00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:19,359
cannot

1576
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:21,440
fix their pathologies and melodies

1577
00:59:27,270 --> 00:59:23,599
themselves and their unraveling genes

1578
00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:27,280
and they require reinvigorating their

1579
00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:28,240
genomes

1580
00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:30,960
through our dna with their new

1581
00:59:36,789 --> 00:59:33,359
generations or their new generations

1582
00:59:40,710 --> 00:59:36,799
um and they require us for that reason

1583
00:59:44,230 --> 00:59:40,720
they have also um been instrumental

1584
00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:44,240
in maintaining the integrity of the

1585
00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:45,920
earth over the last few thousand years

1586
00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:46,880
although they're not

1587
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:49,119
happy with us at the moment because of

1588
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:50,240
us

1589
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:51,359
basically with our nuclear

1590
00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:52,720
sophistication and all this kind of

1591
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:54,720
stuff getting a bit carried away and we

1592
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:56,480
and they're not happy about that at all

1593
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:58,000
but over the past couple of thousands of

1594
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:59,359
years they've stopped lots of different

1595
01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:00,000
things from happening

1596
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:03,119
like um solar flares

1597
01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:05,599
uh damaging the earth too much or

1598
01:00:08,069 --> 01:00:06,240
damaging

1599
01:00:10,150 --> 01:00:08,079
electricity grids as well more recently

1600
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:10,160
and um keeping our civilization

1601
01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:12,880
civilization kind of on track and they

1602
01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:13,280
there

1603
01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:16,240
would have been that's that's um part of

1604
01:00:20,309 --> 01:00:18,160
the testimony of dan burrish

1605
01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:20,319
that says that these beings were from a

1606
01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:22,240
timeline where cataclysmic events

1607
01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:22,960
occurred

1608
01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:26,480
because of solar activity that ended up

1609
01:00:30,549 --> 01:00:29,520
bringing on a a a pole shift that ended

1610
01:00:33,510 --> 01:00:30,559
up

1611
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:33,520
um bringing on a kind of a cataclysmic

1612
01:00:37,270 --> 01:00:34,240
event

1613
01:00:38,230 --> 01:00:37,280
in their own timeline they stopped that

1614
01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:38,240
from happening

1615
01:00:42,789 --> 01:00:40,160
in our timeline so this timeline is not

1616
01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:42,799
theirs and in a sense so these guys with

1617
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:44,480
their future viewing technologies their

1618
01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:46,799
ability to pilot reality as you'd

1619
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:49,040
pilot a research project or pilot of tv

1620
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:49,920
series they can

1621
01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:52,000
look around corners they can make

1622
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:53,599
decisions that are going to affect us

1623
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:55,440
the earth and themselves

1624
01:00:59,829 --> 01:00:57,280
and that way we're all in it together

1625
01:01:01,750 --> 01:00:59,839
now we are a symbiotic system on this

1626
01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:01,760
planet that is

1627
01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:03,520
unbeatable really the way it stands now

1628
01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:06,400
as long as we don't stuff it up by

1629
01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:09,520
wiping out too much biodiversity um and

1630
01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:10,319
making it

1631
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:12,799
um unlivable for ourselves and for the

1632
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:15,200
tall ones but um

1633
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:16,720
there it is yeah sorry sorry man i'm

1634
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:18,160
starting to ramble off now did i answer

1635
01:01:21,190 --> 01:01:19,119
your question

1636
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:21,200
absolutely and i'm glad you answered it

1637
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:22,480
the way you did because

1638
01:01:25,670 --> 01:01:24,720
in my opinion your book most accurately

1639
01:01:28,710 --> 01:01:25,680
describes

1640
01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:28,720
a lot of things that people are not okay

1641
01:01:31,990 --> 01:01:29,359
with and

1642
01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:32,000
i think humanity's own ego gets in the

1643
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:33,280
way there's a reason

1644
01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:35,920
why that capstone is missing it's it's

1645
01:01:39,510 --> 01:01:36,960
not us

1646
01:01:40,789 --> 01:01:39,520
and eerily similar i i wanted to get

1647
01:01:43,750 --> 01:01:40,799
into

1648
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:43,760
the um insinuation that we are clever

1649
01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:44,400
monkeys

1650
01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:47,200
and that's about it and if it's okay i'd

1651
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:49,119
like to get into some of the things that

1652
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:50,480
really make your book

1653
01:01:54,150 --> 01:01:52,720
unique to others which is the personal

1654
01:01:55,589 --> 01:01:54,160
experiences even though i know we're

1655
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:55,599
going over the time here

1656
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:58,240
could we share quickly uh maybe one or

1657
01:02:01,589 --> 01:01:59,839
two of your personal experiences with

1658
01:02:04,789 --> 01:02:01,599
the audience

1659
01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:04,799
yeah yeah for sure um

1660
01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:07,920
i'll share um one i'll share this

1661
01:02:11,029 --> 01:02:09,200
experience now which is

1662
01:02:12,950 --> 01:02:11,039
a major one that happened in around

1663
01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:12,960
about the year

1664
01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:15,839
it's either 2013 or 2014 i get a bit

1665
01:02:18,470 --> 01:02:16,960
confused as to which

1666
01:02:21,029 --> 01:02:18,480
year in particular this happened but it

1667
01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:21,039
was it was a major shift it was very

1668
01:02:23,829 --> 01:02:22,000
very important

1669
01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:23,839
for me because up until then even though

1670
01:02:27,029 --> 01:02:25,520
i had a lot of

1671
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:27,039
strange experiences over my life i

1672
01:02:32,150 --> 01:02:30,240
hadn't really connected the idea of

1673
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:32,160
fairies and ets and that this was all

1674
01:02:35,029 --> 01:02:33,599
kind of related

1675
01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:35,039
and they were related to each other in

1676
01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:36,880
that way of being the same

1677
01:02:41,029 --> 01:02:39,520
entities because it had experiences with

1678
01:02:42,390 --> 01:02:41,039
things that i thought were fairies when

1679
01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:42,400
i was a kid and then

1680
01:02:49,990 --> 01:02:45,440
also into my young adulthood but

1681
01:02:53,029 --> 01:02:50,000
what happened one night was that i was

1682
01:02:54,390 --> 01:02:53,039
um i had already had an inexperience a

1683
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:54,400
couple of nights before where i'd

1684
01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:56,240
returned home in the dark

1685
01:03:00,789 --> 01:02:58,720
um and come in out of the garden and had

1686
01:03:03,029 --> 01:03:00,799
my keys in my hand and opened a door

1687
01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:03,039
open the front door wandered in put the

1688
01:03:07,589 --> 01:03:05,280
keys back on the hooks behind the door

1689
01:03:08,470 --> 01:03:07,599
and found myself levitating back into

1690
01:03:09,910 --> 01:03:08,480
bed

1691
01:03:11,589 --> 01:03:09,920
and then and i was like and then i sat

1692
01:03:14,309 --> 01:03:11,599
up and i was like whoa

1693
01:03:14,789 --> 01:03:14,319
that i'm used to what dreams feel like

1694
01:03:16,549 --> 01:03:14,799
and i'm

1695
01:03:18,309 --> 01:03:16,559
fairly accomplished at like lucid

1696
01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:18,319
dreaming and things like that uh

1697
01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:19,839
i was like oh that was different that

1698
01:03:24,549 --> 01:03:21,599
was that was real that's

1699
01:03:25,829 --> 01:03:24,559
that's really odd okay okay that's i'm

1700
01:03:27,430 --> 01:03:25,839
gonna have to process that i was

1701
01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:27,440
thinking and then

1702
01:03:33,349 --> 01:03:30,559
i i said to the

1703
01:03:34,549 --> 01:03:33,359
projected thoughts out to whatever was

1704
01:03:36,549 --> 01:03:34,559
doing it so i sort of

1705
01:03:38,069 --> 01:03:36,559
instinctively intuitively felt that they

1706
01:03:39,990 --> 01:03:38,079
would be able to understand

1707
01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:40,000
if i just thought these things and

1708
01:03:44,230 --> 01:03:41,280
directed it to them

1709
01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:44,240
i said i'd like that to happen again but

1710
01:03:50,630 --> 01:03:47,440
could i remember more of it please

1711
01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:50,640
and uh so

1712
01:03:53,109 --> 01:03:52,000
it wasn't too long later it might have

1713
01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:53,119
been a couple of nights later i'm not

1714
01:03:57,589 --> 01:03:54,960
100 sure but um

1715
01:03:57,990 --> 01:03:57,599
i was standing out on our veranda at

1716
01:04:01,190 --> 01:03:58,000
night

1717
01:04:02,549 --> 01:04:01,200
again boom and didn't have any memories

1718
01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:02,559
to how i'd gotten out there

1719
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:03,920
and everyone else is asleep and the

1720
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:05,760
lights are all off inside

1721
01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:08,640
just a street light on out on the uh the

1722
01:04:11,829 --> 01:04:09,760
street

1723
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:11,839
and there was a table there with

1724
01:04:16,870 --> 01:04:12,960
drinking glasses

1725
01:04:19,270 --> 01:04:16,880
and coins and i just knelt down and

1726
01:04:21,349 --> 01:04:19,280
started rearranging the drinking glasses

1727
01:04:22,150 --> 01:04:21,359
into straight lines and piling the coins

1728
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:22,160
up into their

1729
01:04:25,829 --> 01:04:23,760
different currents into their different

1730
01:04:28,309 --> 01:04:25,839
uh

1731
01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:28,319
and went into this strange sort of

1732
01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:30,160
almost like an obsessive compulsive sort

1733
01:04:33,029 --> 01:04:30,720
of

1734
01:04:33,990 --> 01:04:33,039
trance lining everything up in this

1735
01:04:37,029 --> 01:04:34,000
weird way

1736
01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:37,039
and then stood up and thought oh i was

1737
01:04:40,150 --> 01:04:38,480
quite complacent about the experience

1738
01:04:41,430 --> 01:04:40,160
thinking oh this is strange that i'm out

1739
01:04:42,950 --> 01:04:41,440
here but not really

1740
01:04:44,309 --> 01:04:42,960
that strange this is okay and i thought

1741
01:04:45,430 --> 01:04:44,319
maybe i should be inside though and i

1742
01:04:48,789 --> 01:04:45,440
started to walk inside

1743
01:04:51,510 --> 01:04:48,799
as i started to move i started lifting

1744
01:04:52,630 --> 01:04:51,520
levitating and then i was taken either

1745
01:04:56,789 --> 01:04:52,640
around the

1746
01:04:59,910 --> 01:04:56,799
the roof of the porch the veranda

1747
01:05:01,829 --> 01:04:59,920
or there's a possibility even

1748
01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:01,839
i went through the roof of the veranda

1749
01:05:07,109 --> 01:05:04,960
in some kind of intangible way

1750
01:05:08,069 --> 01:05:07,119
after i'd gotten up over the roof like

1751
01:05:11,589 --> 01:05:08,079
maybe about 15

1752
01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:11,599
20 feet i was in a bed

1753
01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:14,720
lying down in a bed and

1754
01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:17,680
i had one leg step out straight and the

1755
01:05:20,710 --> 01:05:19,359
other leg was sort of crossed over so

1756
01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:20,720
that it was

1757
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:22,880
on or against my knee so that i was sort

1758
01:05:26,789 --> 01:05:24,720
of i had that

1759
01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:26,799
so there was a space below one leg below

1760
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:29,440
my knee on the bed

1761
01:05:36,710 --> 01:05:32,799
where a person then sat and

1762
01:05:40,470 --> 01:05:36,720
she was a woman with huge blue eyes

1763
01:05:42,309 --> 01:05:40,480
white white as white skin and she

1764
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:42,319
was looking straight at me and lent

1765
01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:44,319
towards me and this feeling of serenity

1766
01:05:47,029 --> 01:05:46,160
and calmness just washed over the top of

1767
01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:47,039
me

1768
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:50,960
um and then a taller

1769
01:05:54,309 --> 01:05:53,200
male that i felt to be a male came

1770
01:05:56,950 --> 01:05:54,319
towards me with

1771
01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:56,960
really long hands and fingers with

1772
01:05:59,589 --> 01:05:58,000
gloves on

1773
01:06:02,150 --> 01:05:59,599
open my mouth and started checking my

1774
01:06:03,750 --> 01:06:02,160
teeth feeling around inside

1775
01:06:05,589 --> 01:06:03,760
and this is i was because it was very

1776
01:06:07,270 --> 01:06:05,599
clinical you know any other experiences

1777
01:06:09,990 --> 01:06:07,280
i've had in the past to me was sort of

1778
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:10,000
quasi-mystical spiritual kinds of

1779
01:06:14,150 --> 01:06:11,520
interactions with what i thought maybe

1780
01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:14,160
were otherworldly beings of some kind

1781
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:17,200
so i've been interested in um like

1782
01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:18,720
wicker and paganism and things in the

1783
01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:20,240
past and i'd presumed as well these

1784
01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:20,960
beings were like

1785
01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:23,200
celtic fairies or something like that

1786
01:06:26,150 --> 01:06:24,640
and i and i was

1787
01:06:28,309 --> 01:06:26,160
so while this experience was happening i

1788
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:28,319
was like this is this is a medical

1789
01:06:33,510 --> 01:06:31,119
procedure of some kind um and that's

1790
01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:33,520
what brought it back into the focus of

1791
01:06:37,109 --> 01:06:35,440
relating all this to et type things

1792
01:06:40,230 --> 01:06:37,119
because this is more sort of typical

1793
01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:40,240
like that um and then he wandered around

1794
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:43,440
behind me and i felt in intensely sharp

1795
01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:44,400
pain

1796
01:06:48,549 --> 01:06:46,880
like i'm pretty i haven't felt anything

1797
01:06:51,670 --> 01:06:48,559
as painful in my life i'm

1798
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:51,680
pretty sure no tattoos no rotten teeth

1799
01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:52,640
i've had

1800
01:06:59,670 --> 01:06:56,319
anesthetic or anything like that

1801
01:07:00,630 --> 01:06:59,680
really compared to this procedure that

1802
01:07:02,950 --> 01:07:00,640
was done

1803
01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:02,960
to the bottom of my space of my skull on

1804
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:04,240
the top of my

1805
01:07:12,470 --> 01:07:08,319
backbone in into there right

1806
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:12,480
um and then i laid back down

1807
01:07:16,069 --> 01:07:14,640
and i felt the serenity still washing

1808
01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:16,079
over me so i was just in complete

1809
01:07:17,990 --> 01:07:17,440
comfort even though i was in intense

1810
01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:18,000
pain

1811
01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:21,920
for a little bit um and then there was a

1812
01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:26,150
and i made this i made sort of a bit of

1813
01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:28,400
a sound like a like a scanner going

1814
01:07:35,589 --> 01:07:32,559
moving along me as well with a light um

1815
01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:35,599
and then and then they were gone and i

1816
01:07:39,910 --> 01:07:36,559
was thinking

1817
01:07:41,190 --> 01:07:39,920
oh wow you know i got up and went to the

1818
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:41,200
bathroom i felt like there was still

1819
01:07:43,670 --> 01:07:42,000
something in the house

1820
01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:43,680
i had that that real feeling of a

1821
01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:45,200
presence still in the house

1822
01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:47,200
i've have i've had many many many many

1823
01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:48,799
times since that feeling when you know

1824
01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:49,839
they're there but you can't

1825
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:53,280
see them necessarily sometimes um

1826
01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:55,200
uh then i had a sort of an interesting

1827
01:07:58,470 --> 01:07:56,960
and final interaction with them because

1828
01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:58,480
they hadn't quite gone yet and i lay

1829
01:08:02,069 --> 01:08:00,000
back down in bed and i

1830
01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:02,079
let my mind sort of wander and i had

1831
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:04,160
this kind of a lucid dream then that i

1832
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:06,160
was outside in the garden and the sky

1833
01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:07,280
was this

1834
01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:10,799
strange color sort of like

1835
01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:12,799
i think there's like a sort of movie

1836
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:14,400
purpley red sort of

1837
01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:17,839
this weird sort of uh palette to the

1838
01:08:21,829 --> 01:08:20,480
the the dream and i yelled out in the

1839
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:21,839
dream which is something in

1840
01:08:25,030 --> 01:08:23,440
lucid dreams i've always done and it's

1841
01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:25,040
just sort of a

1842
01:08:28,709 --> 01:08:26,960
an odd habit of mine but i'm not quite

1843
01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:28,719
sure why i do it's almost like maybe i'm

1844
01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:30,480
trying to see if i can contact

1845
01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:31,600
anyone or anything else in the

1846
01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:33,759
dreamscape that isn't me or i'm not sure

1847
01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:34,400
but

1848
01:08:37,910 --> 01:08:36,080
i did that anyway i did this odd thing

1849
01:08:39,189 --> 01:08:37,920
where in the dream i called out into the

1850
01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:39,199
sky

1851
01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:41,920
and and then boom i was awakened back in

1852
01:08:46,229 --> 01:08:42,719
the bed

1853
01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:46,239
but with a strong voice in the middle of

1854
01:08:50,470 --> 01:08:47,199
my head that said

1855
01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:50,480
you are okay and i was like oh yes yes

1856
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:52,000
i'm fine thank you i

1857
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:53,520
do that i do that in lucid dreams

1858
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:55,120
sometimes i'm not in pain there's

1859
01:08:59,189 --> 01:08:55,920
nothing wrong

1860
01:09:01,030 --> 01:08:59,199
i'm happy and then images flicked across

1861
01:09:02,550 --> 01:09:01,040
my vision

1862
01:09:04,789 --> 01:09:02,560
so even though i had my eyes open i

1863
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:04,799
couldn't see through my eyes anymore

1864
01:09:12,789 --> 01:09:08,400
all i was saying was um wilderness areas

1865
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:12,799
and and parks

1866
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:19,269
and sweeping across my vision

1867
01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:22,799
and then the final vision the final uh

1868
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:26,159
image was a forest with a huge tree in

1869
01:09:30,149 --> 01:09:28,560
the foreground but there was

1870
01:09:31,749 --> 01:09:30,159
there was like some kind of habitation

1871
01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:31,759
or something some kind of building but

1872
01:09:35,110 --> 01:09:33,679
it was a bit odd looking in the back

1873
01:09:37,349 --> 01:09:35,120
and then there was this this tree as

1874
01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:37,359
well i remember the tree thinking

1875
01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:39,279
that it was an impressive tree or

1876
01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:40,799
something like that and then

1877
01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:42,799
boom that that was over and then it felt

1878
01:09:47,749 --> 01:09:44,640
like they were gone the presence was

1879
01:09:49,829 --> 01:09:47,759
gone then now that was and then the next

1880
01:09:53,349 --> 01:09:49,839
morning when we got up our um

1881
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:53,359
tv aerial our tv antenna on our roof

1882
01:10:00,390 --> 01:09:56,640
which was right where i went up over and

1883
01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:00,400
over the roof it was all twisted around

1884
01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:03,440
um so someone said you're thinking maybe

1885
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:04,880
when i went up i knocked it

1886
01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:07,600
so cool when i when i was taken up and

1887
01:10:10,550 --> 01:10:07,920
was

1888
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:10,560
and flung past it that i knocked it but

1889
01:10:14,550 --> 01:10:11,520
then later on

1890
01:10:15,910 --> 01:10:14,560
doing research i found that um other

1891
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:15,920
people have had this happen where

1892
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:17,760
because the craft is like parked

1893
01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:20,080
motionless over their roof

1894
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:22,400
um it can like twist metallic objects

1895
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:23,920
around with the antigravitics and things

1896
01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:25,360
so it seems that the craft

1897
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:27,760
the the forces in the craft itself

1898
01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:29,679
ripped our ariel around

1899
01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:32,159
but um so that was an interesting little

1900
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:33,040
residual

1901
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:35,040
part on physical reality that helped us

1902
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:36,960
cement the experience of something

1903
01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:40,400
that was real to me um and that was the

1904
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:42,080
turning point for me all of a sudden i

1905
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:45,120
was like hold on a second

1906
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:48,640
this is real and then i started um

1907
01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:52,320
investigating ufology um

1908
01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:54,480
and had a sort of like a minor sort of

1909
01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:56,159
passing interest in the

1910
01:10:59,590 --> 01:10:57,679
in that kind of thing in the past you

1911
01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:59,600
know but nothing really intense didn't

1912
01:11:02,550 --> 01:11:01,199
know that much about it

1913
01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:02,560
but that was the clincher that was it

1914
01:11:08,229 --> 01:11:04,880
for me i was i was hooked then

1915
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:08,239
and i've never looked back such

1916
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:11,520
such a cool book it you've created an

1917
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:13,679
amazing literary feat of significant

1918
01:11:17,830 --> 01:11:14,800
magnitude uh

1919
01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:17,840
in children of orion i can't i mean

1920
01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:19,199
there's so many things that i wanted to

1921
01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:19,840
get it there's

1922
01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:22,560
you go into shapeshifter skinwalkers uh

1923
01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:23,760
very unique

1924
01:11:30,310 --> 01:11:28,560
we didn't even get to some of the other

1925
01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:30,320
things like the kelly cahill case in

1926
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:31,280
victoria

1927
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:33,920
so much so much and i can't thank you

1928
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:35,760
enough for coming on the podcast

1929
01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:38,400
and everybody needs to read this book

1930
01:11:41,669 --> 01:11:39,760
thank you for sharing the amazing

1931
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:41,679
revelations outlined in the book

1932
01:11:45,590 --> 01:11:44,000
it's such a good read as well where can

1933
01:11:46,630 --> 01:11:45,600
listeners keep up with your work

1934
01:11:50,229 --> 01:11:46,640
purchase your books

1935
01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:50,239
and support you ryan um

1936
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:51,760
yeah well thanks for saying all that by

1937
01:11:56,630 --> 01:11:53,600
the way ryan that's that's

1938
01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:56,640
lovely um but uh yeah i

1939
01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:59,520
uh my books now available through flying

1940
01:12:03,270 --> 01:11:59,840
disc

1941
01:12:06,310 --> 01:12:03,280
press um available on amazon

1942
01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:06,320
um as a paperback as a hardback

1943
01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:09,920
um as a a kindle book

1944
01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:11,600
and also it's in the pipeline at the

1945
01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:13,120
moment for it to become an

1946
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:15,760
audio book and that should be in the not

1947
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:17,040
too distant future

1948
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:19,679
so on amazon you can find the actual

1949
01:12:24,470 --> 01:12:21,120
book children of orion

1950
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:24,480
finding the crypto terrestrials um

1951
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:26,640
and i also have a youtube channel if

1952
01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:28,159
people are interested in

1953
01:12:32,149 --> 01:12:29,360
going on there and having a look at

1954
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:32,159
things i there's some old documentaries

1955
01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:33,600
and things i put on there but mostly

1956
01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:34,960
what i do in there is i've got an

1957
01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:37,120
ongoing kind of i suppose you call it a

1958
01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:39,840
vlog a sort of

1959
01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:42,800
where do rambles i call it orion

1960
01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:44,239
ramblings um

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and i do just presentations and talks

1962
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about my own experiences and also

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just clarifying different aspects of

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ufology and

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folklore and paranormal investigation

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from my perspective

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bringing answers to questions in my

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opinion

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and that youtube channel is just my name

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ryan musgrave evans

1971
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and should be fairly easy to find people

1972
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are interested

1973
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great stuff and enthralling i i wish we

1974
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i know we could talk for hours and uh i

1975
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can't thank you enough for coming

1976
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on the podcast and i look forward to

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maybe talking to you again

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oh yeah cheers ryan musgrave evans

1979
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with an enthralling book extremely

1980
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interesting spectacularly written in my

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opinion

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an amazing literary feat of significant

1983
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magnitude connecting humanity to its

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very roots

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and possible futures you gotta get it

1986
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so definitely bust on over to amazon

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pick it up

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children of orion and until next time

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keep your eyes to the skies

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feet on the ground but don't forget to